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I asked for a website review and got attacked by a retarded mod.
I’m really surprised that WPW would keep someone like ctabuk on as a mod. the guy is about as bright as a black hole. And it’s even sadder that a moderator feels that because I ask for a site review that in some way that is self promotional.

ctabuk gave me some red and claimed that it was because I had asked for the site review for the same site.

I’d like to know how I did that because the design on the site is brand new. As a matter of fact we made some last minute changes to the site last night.

I’m trying to make the site better and in no way I’m I trying to sale wristbands to WPW members.

I make a killing with this site as well as many other sites I own.

The amount of traffic I get from WPW is less than the amount I get when I make a blog post. And the traffic from the blog post is targeted for the site, unlike the traffic I get from WPW.

For a moderator to be so lame as to think I’ll make one cent from that post is really sad.

The best way to kill a forum is to let a dumb ass be a mod.

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ignore him janeth, nobody else agrees with him i see. majority of people appreciate your openness on the forums. you share so much information about your websites and are not afraid to ask for others opinions even at your advanced level.

let the sad old codger grumble all he wants, he doesnt do himself any favours and he's probably jealous of your abilities.

i wouldnt keep posting responses to him though, when he makes a negative post just ignore him, THAT will piss him off ;)

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ignore him janeth, nobody else agrees with him i see. majority of people appreciate your openness on the forums. you share so much information about your websites and are not afraid to ask for others opinions even at your advanced level.

let the sad old codger grumble all he wants, he doesnt do himself any favours and he's probably jealous of your abilities.

i wouldnt keep posting responses to him though, when he makes a negative post just ignore him, THAT will piss him off ;)


I tried that at first but it's hard to ignore someone when they are saying things that are 100% untrue.


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I think its great the way you keep sticking him in the eye trying to get him to back up his statements. That is one way to get someone back on topic. What an ass.

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I think its great the way you keep sticking him in the eye trying to get him to back up his statements. That is one way to get someone back on topic. What an ass.


About the only time he wanted to put the thread on topic was when he had to back up what he had said.

I find it hard to believe that the administrators can’t see how bad he is for the forum.

He once told Phil that in order to rank for mortgage keywords you only had to use his name. All the search engines knew him and when they say his name they knew it was a website about mortgages.


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WPW like controversy.. It increases post counts and eyeballs.. Just like Greeneagle..

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I think David Castle misses the point when he accuses you of asking for a site review being self promotion. No matter how experienced you are, it is always good to get feedback from others.

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Wow this guy is a complete and utter prick. He even proves it when he says:-

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Janeth has been here longer than me, do I ask for help???
You think your God, so you would never ask for help.


I guess he doesn't quite understand the point of a forum community... And the fact that he believes it makes him better is even worse! :roll:

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I guess he doesn't quite understand the point of a forum community... And the fact that he believes it makes him better is even worse! :roll:


Yep... Got it in one.


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Feydakin wrote:
WPW like controversy.. It increases post counts and eyeballs.. Just like Greeneagle..


Yes and it's always been that way. Maybe they like looking like the online idiots.


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Wow this guy is a complete and utter prick. He even proves it when he says:-

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Janeth has been here longer than me, do I ask for help???
You think your God, so you would never ask for help.


I guess he doesn't quite understand the point of a forum community... And the fact that he believes it makes him better is even worse! :roll:


lol, yes the whole forum thing is beneath him.

He believes his only purpose is to educate people with misinformed and bad information.

He’s also a member here but no longer post because he was made to look stupid every time he did so.


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Hello Everybody and a Happy New Year from this Sad Old Codger who ran away from this forum - Did I hell as like!

Just for the record Janeth submitted the same 'review my site' again for the same site. Now, if she is so expert at SEO and Web Development why does she have to keep asking for help? She gets told the same thing everytime by the same posters. They follow her like lost sheep.

So, come on - make me look stupid. And by the way Janeth, you gave me 2 reds, in fact all of my reds have come from YOU. Hugs and kisses David

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Lewy wrote:
Wow this guy is a complete and utter prick. He even proves it when he says:-

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Janeth has been here longer than me, do I ask for help???
You think your God, so you would never ask for help.


I guess he doesn't quite understand the point of a forum community... And the fact that he believes it makes him better is even worse! :roll:


She wrote the God bit not me. Now, if you want to call me a prick, that's fine. But at least if you do please try to get the facts correct in the first place. Thanks


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I think David Castle misses the point when he accuses you of asking for a site review being self promotion. No matter how experienced you are, it is always good to get feedback from others.


Yes I agree, forums are indeed places to visit, and to learn from and to try to help others, that is the whole basis of forum life, a community based on helping others. But if someone asked for assistance in this forum and you all chipped in with help and guidance would you not be a little annoyed if the poster then came back in 3 months time and asked for the same advice again?

You see, there are always two sides to a story.


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Lewy wrote:
Wow this guy is a complete and utter prick. He even proves it when he says:-

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Janeth has been here longer than me, do I ask for help???
You think your God, so you would never ask for help.


I guess he doesn't quite understand the point of a forum community... And the fact that he believes it makes him better is even worse! :roll:


lol, yes the whole forum thing is beneath him.

He believes his only purpose is to educate people with misinformed and bad information.

He’s also a member here but no longer post because he was made to look stupid every time he did so.



So I give out bad information? I have a simple rule in life, it is better to keep your mouth shut and appear an idiot than it is to open it and confirm it.
So, any time that I give out information I do so with the express desire of helping the person asking the question. If, you see me giving out bad information, then post it, or pm with 'hey mate you are wrong - and prove your point. Don't simply PM admin at WPW saying 'That nasty ctabuk is being horrid to me'. And do not PM all your buddies and say 'Help me please, that big nasty, horrid ctabuk is saying nasty things about me, help me everyone' Sad


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Just for the record Janeth submitted the same 'review my site' again for the same site.


Just for the record it might have been the same domain name but was a different design. Had you taken the time to look into that you would have known.

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Now, if she is so expert at SEO and Web Development why does she have to keep asking for help?


We get better when we ask others for their opinions and thoughts. Not all us feel that we are above the rest of the world.


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She gets told the same thing everytime by the same posters. They follow her like lost sheep.


How could that be since it was a different design?

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So, come on - make me look stupid.


You do such a good job of that all by your self.


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I think David Castle misses the point when he accuses you of asking for a site review being self promotion. No matter how experienced you are, it is always good to get feedback from others.


Yes I agree, forums are indeed places to visit, and to learn from and to try to help others, that is the whole basis of forum life, a community based on helping others. But if someone asked for assistance in this forum and you all chipped in with help and guidance would you not be a little annoyed if the poster then came back in 3 months time and asked for the same advice again?

You see, there are always two sides to a story.


Yes, and the other side is that it was a new design.

You seem to not understand the concept so let me try and explain it to you.

Web designs can and sometimes do change. What we do is take our first design and try to improve on it for things like conversion and traffic. We take what we feel is the best way of doing things and post them online.

Then those (whom are smarter than others) ask friends and family for their opinions. From there we make changes and try to improve on what we had before.

When I had asked for help the design I was asking for help on was around a month old. Since it had been 3 months since the last time I asked for help common sense would say that it must have been a new design.

Try it sometimes. It’s called common sense.


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It had the same URL Janeth, the same skin.

And I am not above the rest of the world, far from it, I make mistakes just as we all do. But, I do not go running to other people for help, I defend myself.

I have said it before and I will say it again. You are extremely talented, you are though a self confessed user of webproworld for your own ends.

Did you or did you not write this??

Spammers Are Good For Your Blog and Forum

I’m just a girl yet I’ve been called a black hat SEO as well as a spammer no less than 3 times this week. Seems that so-called white hat SEO’s call anything that might cause them a little extra thought a black hat and or a spammer.

They’ve gone so far as to say that if you post on a blog or forum with the sole purpose of the backlinks then you’re a spammer. When I pointed out that all my posts are good they pointed out that it makes no difference. What matters is where your mind is when you’re making the post. Are you thinking about the backlinks or helping others.

Kind of like Google saying if you do anything to your site with the intentions of a higher ranking then you are a blackhat. Your intentions seem to play a big part on rather your blackhat or a spammer. I figure these must be church going folks as I remember something similar coming from the preacher when I was growing up.

I’ve got no problem with going along with being a black hat and or a spammer. It’s got to mean something good as I look back at my track record. Spammers bring good to both forums and blogs.

Let me explain

Chances are if you own a blog and or a forum and have lots and lots of people posting on them, the posters that seem the most knowledgeable and the most willing to help, are spammers. Their hope is to make a post good enough to drive both links and traffic to their site.

Before I got burned out on the whole forum thing I was getting at least 3 to 4 emails a week from people asking me to be a moderator on their forum and I was moderating on about 10 different forums already. Webproworld was one of the hottest forums online and I was starting more post that got higher responses than anyone else. And at the time I knew nothing about SEO but was making a killing off the forums.

I was what most forums needed. As time went on I got really good at understanding how to get a site ranked but got burned out on the forums. Many people have accused me of being a spammer even though I rarely ever linked to my own sites. And as I left those forums I’ve noticed most of them have died down quite a bit. I like to think it’s because I no longer posting on them but it’s likely something totally different.

Either way my point is this isn’t church and what we are thinking when we make a post or leave a comment doesn’t mean ****.
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It had the same URL Janeth, the same skin.


And that is a lie. I can not beleive you would come up with such a lie.

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But, I do not go running to other people for help, I defend myself.


Me pointing out an idiot is not my running for help.

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I have said it before and I will say it again. You are extremely talented, you are though a self confessed user of webproworld for your own ends.


We should count up how many times you link to you stuff and how many times I link to mine.

We can count mine on one hand.


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It had the same URL Janeth, the same skin.


Why would you tell such a lie?

And I can prove you are lying, that will be the second time in the same thread.


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I think David Castle misses the point when he accuses you of asking for a site review being self promotion. No matter how experienced you are, it is always good to get feedback from others.


Yes I agree, forums are indeed places to visit, and to learn from and to try to help others, that is the whole basis of forum life, a community based on helping others. But if someone asked for assistance in this forum and you all chipped in with help and guidance would you not be a little annoyed if the poster then came back in 3 months time and asked for the same advice again?

You see, there are always two sides to a story.


Yes, and the other side is that it was a new design.

You seem to not understand the concept so let me try and explain it to you.

Web designs can and sometimes do change. What we do is take our first design and try to improve on it for things like conversion and traffic. We take what we feel is the best way of doing things and post them online.

Then those (whom are smarter than others) ask friends and family for their opinions. From there we make changes and try to improve on what we had before.

When I had asked for help the design I was asking for help on was around a month old. Since it had been 3 months since the last time I asked for help common sense would say that it must have been a new design.

Try it sometimes. It’s called common sense.



I ran both of the sites submitted for review and according to sitereportcard they were one and the same site. I'll go and get both of them and let your posters decide.


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Here is the first.
http://www.webproworld.com/submit-yo...ding-page.html

And here is the second
http://wristbands.geeksonsteroids.com/

Apparantly admin deleted the first thread. But for the record, were the URL's exactly the same, yes or no please?


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Try and stay with me. If the design changes then it does not mean that the design in the first site review is the same. It means that when the design changed the url stayed the same.

Look at the things being talked about in the first review and look at what is being talked about in the second review.

Try a little common sense.


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I managed to reload it
One of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do was sit while other criticized my work. But after it’s all over and the smokes cleared it is the single thing that has helped me more than anything else.

I’d like to get some insight or how I can make Professionally designed rubber bracelets

http://wristbands.geeksonsteroids.com/r ... celets.php

Be tough on me. The tougher the better.


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I managed to reload it
One of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do was sit while other criticized my work. But after it’s all over and the smokes cleared it is the single thing that has helped me more than anything else.

I’d like to get some insight or how I can make Professionally designed rubber bracelets

http://wristbands.geeksonsteroids.com/r ... celets.php

Be tough on me. The tougher the better.


Where is the thread?

If you are going to make claims then show the thread.


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Try and stay with me. If the design changes then it does not mean that the design in the first site review is the same. It means that when the design changed the url stayed the same.

Look at the things being talked about in the first review and look at what is being talked about in the second review.

Try a little common sense.


Janeth, let's pretend that you were the moderator, if you saw two identicle sites submitted for review would you be annoyed or not? I don't have time to look at everypage that has been either reworked, or renamed, we look at the front page and if it has been in for review previously then it smells fishy.


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Here is the first thread
http://www.webproworld.com/submit-your- ... -page.html


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Try and stay with me. If the design changes then it does not mean that the design in the first site review is the same. It means that when the design changed the url stayed the same.

Look at the things being talked about in the first review and look at what is being talked about in the second review.

Try a little common sense.


Janeth, let's pretend that you were the moderator, if you saw two identicle sites submitted for review would you be annoyed or not? I don't have time to look at everypage that has been either reworked, or renamed, we look at the front page and if it has been in for review previously then it smells fishy.


I'd say one is a dead link and the other is a link to a website. And I would think the person posting those links here should once again, check what he is talking about before he makes a post.


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chiron I'd still break apart (single image right now) the 1-2-3 and have the "1 - Choose" be an animated image of one kind or another to grab those eyeballs!


Look, they posted a jpg of the site they were reviewing

http://www.adhive.com/janeth_landing.jpg

Now can you look at that site and the current site and tell me those two sites are the same?


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Janeth, let's pretend that you were the moderator, if you saw two identicle sites submitted for review would you be annoyed or not? I don't have time to look at everypage that has been either reworked, or renamed, we look at the front page and if it has been in for review previously then it smells fishy.



You remember every site that was asked for a review on even if it was months back?

I’m impressed or the forum must have slowed down a lot.

Or maybe this is your third lie in this thread alone.

I don’t set out to harass people or members of a forum. You look for my post and try and look for a reason to make an attack. You are a poor excuse for a moderator.


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